Tuesday, October 04, 2005

1 Corinthians 14:34-35: "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

And this is the authority that they quote to justify homophobia?

That is all.

5 Comments:

Blogger IAMB said...

Religion (at least the common variety) is certainly a man's world. I've often wondered why women put up with it... especially in the Mormon camp, where women are breeding stock. I'm always surprised by those LDS women that justify their position by repeating their mantra that they are actually favored by God because they have the sacred duty to give birth.

Please!

3:33 PM  
Blogger luna_the_cat said...

Women, for whatever reason, seem to absorb and internalise the system they are raised with, and this works even more for systems that victimise them; because most people would rather believe that how they are raised is good and right even though it leaves them maimed, than that they are victims of monumental, warped injustice. Why this should be true at any deep level I don't know, but look at things like female foot-binding in China (a practice perpetuated by mothers on daughters) or female "circumcision" in Africa (again perpetuated by women). It makes no particular sense to me, but perhaps the basic impulse toward social cohesion is working against us here.

Just a thought.

On a lighter note, regarding fashion -- if you ever want to see just how bad it can get, visit the "youth districts" of Tokyo sometime. There is no such thing as a "fashion trainwreck" there; ANYTHING goes. My husband and I saw things like the Gothic "Lolita" look (black blouse/dress with lots of lace and ribbon, hair in pigtails, pouty makeup) plus plaid skirts and stripy socks.

1:25 PM  
Blogger Joolya said...

I think re: the female circumcision and that kind of thing being perpetrated from one generation to another that there is an incentive for the mother to train the daughter to be what the society values, in order for her to "succeed" in getting a husband, respect, whatever. especially where women have little agency and their lives are controlled by men who expect them to be a particular way.

2:07 PM  
Blogger Ms.PhD said...

agreed about perpetuating across generations, but luna has a point- women do seem to value the group thang a bit too much. I've found that, more often than men, women seem driven to take down the tall poppy.

3:53 PM  
Blogger Joolya said...

That may be - my mom has a similar theory about Eastern European peasantry, in particular her large insane Hungarian extended family. She speculates that it's a survival tactic to keep the Hun/Tartars/Cossacks from noticing anyone in the village and turning their pillaging attentions on the rest of them.

8:15 AM  

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